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It’s my 15 year Overdiagnosis Day!
January 19, 2010 — my life changed forever.
This was the day I was given a diagnosis of something I had never heard of before.
It was called Ductal Carcinoma in Situ (DCIS) and it was described as a “pre-cancer.”
But…..because of uncertainty about a potential future real INVASIVE cancer, I was told the treatments were agggressive, the same as if it were invasive cancer.
I was given scary risk statistics, and sent home with an outdated inappropriate booklet called “A Woman’s Guide to Breast Cancer Diagnosis and Treatments.”
I KNEW in my gut something wasn’t right.
This was the beginning of a 15 year investigation that continues to this day!
Every day my heart breaks for women who unknowingly become another statistic of this epidemic.
My websites DCIS 411 and DCIS Redefined provide information which is vastly different from other websites discussing DCIS. These sites not only help women understand the controversy and issues about DCIS overdiagnosis and overtreatment, they also focus on newer safer technologies for monitoring breast health, as well as holistic ways to reduce cancer risk while increasing body, mind, spirit wellness.
Online groups affiliated with my websites have grown from a few women to thousands in the last few years. Women are actively seeking “alternative” information, and those finding my websites and support groups are extremely grateful.
My goal now is to reach more women BEFORE they are taken down the overdiagnosis and overtreatment rabbit hole.
I am working on two ebooks:
1.) “DCIS: The Holistic Way
2.) “MAMOPOLY: What You Need to Know Before You Roll the Pink Dice”
I want to thank everyone who has supported me along the way. Words of kindness, encouragement, and appreciation remain in my heart and motivate me to keep going.
I am equally grateful for all the many naysayers and fear-mongers over the years! I would have never been so fired up to investigate as deep as I have! Thank you for challenging me!
As I strive to improve how I communicate and empathize with all people of different mindsets, I welcome all comments and criticism.
In peace, love, gratitude, wisdom, and health,
Donna Pinto
January 19, 2025

After a day of hiking to Machu Picchu in Peru, I received a text from a friend with a screenshot of a familiar face — Dr. Laura Esserman, Director of the Breast Care Center at UCSF. She was being interviewed on the news. The headline read ELLE MACPHERSON REVEALS CANCER BATTLE.
My friend texted: “DCIS and they are calling it breast cancer and that she is in remission. That she chose to not do treatment. Crazy with being barely cancer… of course you know.“
Eager to connect to Wifi at my hotel that evening, I was shocked by the media blitz criticizing Elle.
One article titled: Elle Macpherson slammed for ‘holistic’ cancer approach stated:
Macpherson’s approach to treatment has been met with criticism on social media, particularly firing up users on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Cancer researcher Dr David Robert Grimes said: “Incredibly irresponsible from Elle Macpherson: Holistic therapy is NOT (a) valid treatment for breast cancer.”
Meanwhile, Dr Liz O’Riordan said: “We have proof that … who choose not to have mainstream cancer treatments for breast cancer are 6x (sic) more likely to die thanks to @sky__john and co.
Another article stated: Doctors from the UK to Australia and back have slammed her pronouncements, with one professor of public health from Trinity College Dublin saying “this bullshit kills people“.

I found myself in disbelief.
DCIS is not life-threatening.
Once I returned home, I was able to investigate further. Thankfully I found one article that actually mentions the incongruency of information and what was missing from the many media articles and comments:
“But media coverage of Macpherson’s situation has largely missed a key piece of information: her breast cancer is not invasive. This missing information from the media is also a missed opportunity to discuss less invasive options for the management of DCIS. The rate of DCIS has increased greatly since the introduction of breast cancer screening. You can detect it on a mammogram but it rarely causes symptoms. Many of these lesions are unlikely to ever cause a problem in a woman’s lifetime. As a result of this, some cases of DCIS are considered to be over-diagnosed. Now options such as active surveillance (closely monitoring but not providing treatment unless the condition progresses) are considered reasonable and are being robustly evaluated in research trials to help reduce overtreatment.”
Since 2009, there have been conferences and debates and published articles calling for the removal of the word “carcinoma” as well as less aggressive treatment options including “active surveillance.” See Medscape article Take Carcinoma Out and Ease off Treatment.
This one article sparked my personal quest of endless hours drilling into the debate among medical professionals. I started to collect articles and videos of the few experts stating DCIS is more like “abnormal cells” and the word “carcinoma” should be removed from the diagnosis because it creates exaggerated fear and too many women felt rushed towards aggressive “cancer” treatments.
DCIS 411 was created in 2011 to educate women about this.
After 15 years of my own personal research regarding DCIS and Holistic Health, seven years serving as a Patient Advocate within high level medical research to help reduce DCIS overdiagnosis and overtreatment, and 13 years hosting a DCIS website and online support groups, I believe my opinions and my questions matter.
Why is the media not helping women to better understand DCIS — that it is not “breast cancer,” but a risk factor?
Why are holistic therapies not being studied to help reduce risk of invasive cancer after a DCIS diagnosis?
I was told by one doctor, “There’s no money in it.”
Elle did what I believe all women should do… slow down, get 2nd opinons, make well-informed decisions, and make your health a priority.
Over the years the media has praised other celebrities diagnosed with DCIS who are champions for prophylactic double mastectomies. In 2015, celebrity chef Sandra Lee spoke out publicly and said her doctor told her she was a “ticking time bomb” which drove her to choose a double mastectomy for DCIS. I wrote DCIS is NOT a “Ticking Time Bomb” — What Women Really Need to Know. I also wrote about the high rate of double mastectemies for DCIS here.
We are all unique and there is no one right way to handle or treat a scary diagnosis like DCIS. I fully relate with Elle’s choices. Although I am not a celebrity with endless financial resources, I too sought multiple opinions from conventional cancer doctors, integrative doctors, naturopathic doctors, a nutritionist, a holistc dentist, and I also sought out and paid out of pocket for different forms of breast imaging. I read nonstop. I studied anti-cancer nutrition. I came to believe wholeheartedly in “Food and Lifestyle as Medicine.”
Now, when I think back to when I received a DCIS diagnosis in 2010, I remember how the aggressive “standard of care” treatments presented to me shocked me more than the actual “pre-cancerous condition” the nurse told me I had. I felt frozen by the thought of losing my breast or having daily radiation for weeks. The anti-hormonal drugs seemed awful, and I was more worried about short and long-term side effects than a slight risk reduction. I knew, from extensive research that if I declined any or all treatments that my life was not in danger.
And it turns out I was right.
Being told “Your breast is like spoiled soup and not worth saving” is truly horrendous. In 2023 I wrote about how I proved my doctor wrong: In 2011, My Doctor Told Me: “Your Breast is Like Spoiled Soup… It’s Not Worth Saving.”
It continues to amaze me that 15 years after this all began for me, the media is still over-sensationalizing a dangerous “cancer battle” of a celebrity who is diagnosed with a non-invasive, non-life-threatening condition.
Not only do I feel the media is doing a disservice to women, I feel doctors have a responsibility to educate the public and correct the media when a celebrity like Elle’s diagnosis is being wrongly discussed and over-sensationalized.
Great to see follow up articles such as this: Elle Macpherson defends holistic cancer treatment despite backlash:
“I guess I would say I’m really pleased that it [has] sparked conversation and discussion, because with discussion comes awareness and comes growth,” she said of the backlash the initial interview had generated. “Uncomfortable for me, but I think it’s very worthwhile in that sense,” she said.
Bravo Elle Macpherson! Let’s keep the conversation and education going!
Please watch my DCIS story on Inside Edition and then click the links below:
Over-diagnosis 411: Overdiagnosis Devastates Lives of Healthy Women
Be W I S E (Screening 411) Women Informed Supported Empowered

I just found out Dr. Michael Lagios, a true legend in the field of #DCIS pathology/research, passed away on April 7, 2024.
While I did not agree with everything Dr. Lagios told me when I consulted with him in Nov 2011, it was evident to me he had a sincere desire to help women make better informed decisions and potentially spare them from a mastectomy and or radiation and tamoxifen. He was a true pioneer at the time and he was the co-creator of the Van Nuys Prognostic Index (VNPI) which classified DCIS into different risk categories and served as an aid to the complex treatment decision-making process.
In my case, despite being given a high risk score (8) on the VNPI, I felt emboldened by Dr. Lagios reviewing my pathology slides and downgrading the DCIS cells to LOW grade. In 2010-2011, there were no women online saying NO to surgery, radiation and tamoxifen/AI and I was being heavily pressured by multiple doctors to have a mastectomy and/or more surgery + weeks of radiation and tamoxifen, despite his new determination that my case was downgraded to LOW grade DCIS.
In my effort to help women gain more insights about DCIS, I asked Dr. Lagios if I could post the recording of my 45 min phone consultation with him. He kindly said yes.
In November 2011, at the time of the consultation, I was still new to a lot of the DCIS research and I was asking a lot of questions. My questions then are still some of the same questions being asked by women newly diagnosed with DCIS today.
One of the most important things I learned, and I feel women who have had biopsies or surgeries with positive margins, will feel peace of mind from starts at minute 27:47. Dr Lagios states:
“Clearly as DCIS, it doesn’t have any metastatic ability. Even if you chop it up surgically and leave it in the wound, it will not become invasive. The cells don’t spill out of the cut-through duct, for example, and then start growing in the breast. It requires several mutations of the cancer cell itself before it develops the ability to invade the breast.“
A few weeks later, I took Dr. Lagios’ advice and drove 1.5 hours for a consult with Dr. Mel Silverstein in Irvine, CA. He suggested a reduction (removing the close margin of DCIS) and lift of both breasts (for symmetry).
Next I flew to San Francisco to have a consult with Dr. Laura Esserman in February 2012. She suggested tamoxifen alone for breast cancer prevention.
The reason I was seeking all these opinions was because my doctor in San Diego had told me:
“You’re breast is like spoiled soup. It’s not worth saving.”
My gut instinct was, No way. I would not even consider mastectomy.
Then she said:
“Don’t be stupid Donna — at least do 3 weeks of radiation.”
She also told me, “You don’t want to wait until it’s not treatable.”
After extensive research into #overdiagnosis, I began to research alternative breast imaging and I found Dr. Kevin Kelly who invented Sonocine automated ultrasound.
Despite Dr. Lagios and many experts saying there was more DCIS in my breast and all of them said, “I wouldn’t do NOTHING…”
I declined all of the treatments.
I never had another mammogram.
I never had another breast issue. (13 years later)
While I defied Dr. Lagios by doing NOTHING (conventional) further, I am forever grateful to him and I hold him in the highest regard.
Thank you Dr. Michael Lagios — for all that you did for me — and for the many thousands of women who came before and after me — seeking to better understand DCIS. May your spirit and wisdom continue to watch over and guide women and physicians alike.
For anyone interested in this topic, please listen to my phone consultation with Dr. Michael Lagios and then spend time reviewing my blog and the HOLISTIC HEALTH path I chose to focus on.

(Photo taken in Kauai, Aug 2023 by Glenn Pinto)
And she was guided by the light
Cut loose like a deuce, another runner in the night
Guided by the light
She got down, but she stayed forever in the light
Yes she’s surely made it all right.
-Adapted from Blinded by the Light, Bruce Springsteen
In 2010, my friend Adriana showed me the light. She set me free from the terror that doctors had instilled in me. I am forever in gratitude. Sharing my story, insights, and resources is my way of paying it forward.
One of my first blog posts was written in January 2012, two years after a DCIS diagnosis rocked my world: You can read it here:

In October 2015, I hosted “Beyond Breast Cancer Awareness,” an event to educate women about options for early detection and cancer prevention.
I made a video for the event to highlight the choice I made to go against medical advice and say NO to overly aggressive “standard of care” treatments.
The video features books, films, videos and more inspiration for creating my websites, support groups, and a nonprofit organization (now called Give Wellness):
A recent update to my story can be found here:
May you, too, be guided by the light.
With love and gratitude,
Donna Pinto, April 2024

I have been contemplating creating this podcast as well as educational videos and a documentary for years.
The intention is to give voice to people who have personal stories of a HEALTH WAKE-UP CALL.
I’m kicking off Episode 1 on this symbolic day with my personal story (see video at bottom of this post).
It was exactly 14 years ago, on January 19th, 2010, I was given a diagnosis that brought my happy life to a screeching halt.
I had never heard of DCIS before, but from the moment I was told about the aggressive treatment protocols, I knew something was not right.
I went home and started to investigate.
I also sent out an email to all my friends and family with the subject line: GOOD NEWS / BAD NEWS.
The good news was DCIS was considered a non-invasive “pre-cancerous” condition and the treatments were to reduce risk of invasive cancer.
The bad news was the aggressive treatments of surgery, radiation and drugs (they were the same as invasive cancer).
My friend Adriana called me and said “No-no-no,” with her Colombian accent. “You mustn’t do these invasive treatments… You must come see me immediately.”

Adriana took me under her wings and began to re-educate me about the human body and its digestive process. She assured me that I had nothing to fear and that our bodies have natural abilities to heal when given the right foods and environment. She taught me about detoxification, building my immune system and alkalizing my body with raw, whole, organic superfoods. Amazingly, as healthy as I thought I was, I had never heard of the alkaline-acid balance and that the foods we ingest become either acid or alkaline in our bodies – and over-acidity can lead to or enhance diseases like cancer. I discovered that many of the foods and beverages I loved were acid-forming, such as: coffee, bread, cheese, jam, cereal, sugar, ice cream, sugar-free gum and beer. I learned that I did not have enough GOOD fat in my diet and I was probably deficient in protein and certain vitamins and minerals because I didn’t eat enough variety of fruits, vegetables, beans and whole grains. Adriana took me to the health food store and showed me how to read ingredients and choose healthier versions of foods. I ate kale and chard for the first time in my life!
Adriana did not go to medical school, but she seemed to know more about cancer than the cancer doctors! She explained cancer to me from a scientific cellular level and assured me that DCIS was NOT cancer and NOTHING to be in fear of. From her perspective, it was the FEAR that was the worst part of a DCIS diagnosis.
Adriana advised me on foods and supplements specific for immunity building and breast cancer prevention. She had me put drops of chlorophyll in my water and gave me a list of foods to eat and to eliminate. She guided me through a two week raw food cleanse including an intensive weekend detox where she whipped up raw soups, tonics and teas round the clock! Adriana told me if I did everything she said and put off doing an MRI for a month, it would be clear. And it was!!!
This changed the course of action I would take for treatment. I was emboldened to say “no” to my team of doctors whose options were a lumpectomy plus 7 weeks of radiation or a mastectomy.

I became fascinated with stories, books, articles and films about holistic ways to reduce cancer risk and improve health. I studied “food as medicine” — and in 2013, I received a Certification in Whole Food, Plant-based Nutrition.
Most importantly what I learned over the last 14 years is this:
True health is more than just high quality organic plant-based food, filtered water and daily exercise. A healthy disease-free life revolves around a mindset. It’s not something most oncologists and healthcare providers are knowledgeable about. One has to go outside of the mainstream medical box and dig deeper within themselves. I made a “Wheel of Healing” that included everything I felt was important to my health and well-being.

I understand how overwhelming it can feel in the beginning after a scary diagnosis. But I also know for sure that this can serve as a wake-up call. It did for me. And while my path is not for everyone, the journey it took me on is one that I am grateful for each and every day.
I created my website DCIS 411 in 2011 in hopes of helping even one person seeking answers and support outside of the mainstream medical box. It warms my heart to know I have made a difference in so many lives. I am truly grateful for the wonderful friendships I have developed along the way.
In 2016, I created a nonprofit called Give Wellness. The mission is simple:

To promote “Wellness as a way-of-life.”
My vision for this podcast is to bring the mission of Give Wellness to a new level. By educating, advocating, supporting and inspiring mind-body-spirit wellness through the power of personal stories.
Thank you for joining me here.
If you’d like to share YOUR HEALTH Wake-Up Call story in an interview format with me, please contact me via email:
dp4peace@yahoo.com
Subject: PODCAST
Your friend in love, light, peace, truth, and health,
Donna Pinto
January 19, 2024